EDIT: I’ve written a followup to this post here.

Today, to kick off my triumphant return to writing, we’re going to talk about the so-called “paleo” diet.  At least four people I know have “gone paleo,” as they annoyingly insist on calling the decision to eat this particular way.  It’s all very new-age and exciting, like yoga or crossfit or gluten-free or whatever the fuck tickles your fancy and makes you feel superior to the people you once called friends.

Also similar to crossfit, the people who have “gone paleo” are all too eager to tell you about how great they feel now and how they’ve really gotten rid of their toxins in a way they didn’t previously realize that toxins could be gotten rid of.

I’m not going to address crossfit in this blog, because explaining that you’d have to be a goddamn idiot to think that an empty concrete warehouse with a pullup bar and a kettle bell is worth $135 a month is beneath me.  What I will address is the paleo diet.

I was going to do one of those section headers where I ask “What Is The Paleo Diet?” and then I explain it to you, but I’ll let that chiseled paragon of manliness do it for me.  He apparently does the paleo diet.  Or he’s a stock photo of a muscular man that someone decided to use to make their point.  I don’t know, he’s from Google Images.  Whatever.  Anyway, I’ll let thepaleodiet.com explain the premise to you, as they seem to consider themselves the experts.

The paleo diet is based upon everyday, modern foods that mimic the food groups of our pre-agricultural, hunter-gatherer ancestors. The following seven fundamental characteristics of hunter-gatherer diets will help to optimize your health, minimize your risk of chronic disease, and lose weight.

In case you’re not good at words, the “paleo” part of the diet comes from the word “paleolithic,” which spans a period of time from about 2.5 million years ago to about 10,000 years ago.  Right away, you should be furrowing your brow in the way that I’m sure you all furrow your brows when you’re skeptical about something you’ve been told.  The problem with saying “we should eat like we did in the Paleolithic Era” is that the Paleolithic Era covers a preposterous amount of time.  At the most recent end of that time period, our ancestors were slightly shorter than we are and had just invented irrigation and beer, and at the far end of that time period our ancestors looked like chimps and had just invented hitting things with rocks.  They did not have the same lifestyles.  But the problems with the paleo diet go much deeper than that.  Let’s break them down.

1. Paleo People Weren’t Any Better Adapted Than We Are

A common thread in the defense of the paleo diet is that humans haven’t evolved fast enough to catch up to the foods we eat nowadays, mainly referring to agriculturally raised grains like wheat and corn.  But evolution does not go in steps.  People a hundred thousand years ago could just have easily said that their bodies weren’t evolving fast enough to eat domesticated animals or walk upright or not eat feces.  And so on.  I quote Discover Magazine:

As evolutionary and genetic science show, humans, like all other living beings, have always been a work in progress and never completely in sync with the natural world. If we’re going to romanticize and emulate a particular point in our evolutionary history, why not go all the way back to when our ape ancestors spent their days swinging from tree to tree?
I, for one, welcome a return to initiating sexual contact by presenting one’s buttocks in public.

Animals evolve to adapt to their foods and environments, and they eat new things to adapt to their ability to do so.  There is no point in human evolution, nor has there ever been, at which we have “caught up” to our diets.  But even if there were…

2. We Don’t Digest Our Own Food

This one might sound weird at first, but it’s true.  The vast majority of the cells in “your” body are bacteria, to the tune of 100 trillion of them in your intestines alone.  That’s ten times as many as the number of actual human cells in your entire body.  Their main job is to get energy from carbohydrates by the process of fermentation.  And they reproduce like crazy.  E. coli, for example, reproduces roughly every 20 minutes.  According to studies of infant gut bacteria, the entire system can be recycled in less than 48 hours.

Yeah. We get it in.

That means that while humans have only gone through roughly 225 generations since the Pyramids were built, the bacteria in your intestines have gone through twice that many generations since this time last week.  And each time they reproduced, their genetic material was imperfectly replicated — the fundamental flaw in biology that makes evolution possible.  So while you may argue that human evolution isn’t fast enough to keep up with our change in diet, your bacteria have gone through a few dozen generations since your last meal.

Want an example?  In 1975, some Japanese scientists found bacteria in a pool containing wastewater from a nylon production plant.  Upon closer examination, it turned out that the bacteria were eating nylon byproducts.  Not only were the byproducts inorganic, but those particular synthetic molecules had not existed anywhere until the invention of nylon in 1935.  The enzyme that the bacteria used to break down the nylon byproducts also didn’t exist anywhere else in nature, and when tested were found not to work — where “work” means “metabolize for the extraction of energy” — on anything else.  So not only had these bacteria evolved to eat something that didn’t exist before, but they invented a new chemical to do so.  In 40 years.  And yet the proponents of paleo would have you believe that our gut bacteria can’t evolve enough to switch from metabolizing nuts and leaves to metabolizing grasses and seeds, given only a million fucking years to do so.  That’s like conceding that humans have learned how to use iPhones, but arguing that we don’t yet have the sense to clothe ourselves.

Speaking in generalities, of course.

But even if the bacteria also had trouble “keeping up,” warranting a need to eat paleo…

3. You Can’t

That’s right.  You can’t eat paleo.  Because just as humans have evolved, so has our food.  The food that we eat today has virtually nothing in common with its ancient ancestors. Everything you eat has been selectively bred to be bigger or sweeter or fattier or to make more of itself faster.  Every. Single. Thing.  For millennia, at first inadvertently, humans have been growing stuff, keeping the ones they want, and getting rid of the rest.  Let’s say you grow tomatoes.  You have a few plants, and you treat them all the same, but one of them just doesn’t grow tomatoes as well as the others.  They’re smaller, harder, slightly more bitter.  When it comes time to plant some of your tomatoes to make more tomatoes, are you going to plant seeds from the good ones or the shitty ones?  The good ones, obviously.

You don’t have to know anything about genetics or mutation.  All you have to know is that tomatoes make more tomatoes.  Dogs make more dogs.  Cows make more cows.  If you want bigger dogs, let the big ones have sex and kill the smaller ones.  If you want bigger tomatoes, plant the big ones and feed the smaller ones to the pigs.  Humans didn’t need any scientific knowledge to figure that out — and they didn’t have any — and so they’ve been altering the things they eat for so long that they’re not the same any more.

Take corn for example.  Here’s a picture of what changes corn has gone through since humans started growing it on purpose.

On the left is what’s called teosinte.  It’s basically just another grass with seeds, like wheat or barley or anything else you might find hiking in the fall.  There are more than 10,000 species of grass in the world and they all have seeds on the end of stalks.  Until Mesoamerican humans came along, this was just another one.  But then selective breeding made it bigger, fatter, sweeter, and juicier.  Know how long that took?  6,300 years.  So if you want to eat paleo, you sure as shit can’t eat corn, even if we go with the most recent edge of the paleo period: 10,000 years ago.  Now, obviously corn isn’t on the list of paleo foods, but my point is that there are no ancient foods left, because they’ve all been changing for millennia.  So if that’s what’s happened to all the food we eat in only a few thousand years, what the hell are paleo people suppose to eat?  That brings me to my next point.  Not only are paleo people unable to eat ancient foods…

4. They’re Not Even Trying

This is a screenshot of the Facebook account of a guy I used to know.  We haven’t spoken in over a year because he used to be an uncontrollable angry drunk, and that’s not my kind of people.  That’s why I’ve blurred out his name.  Since then, he has apparently “gone paleo.”

Try not to pass out at the sheer quantity of bro-ness happening in the comments and let’s just look at the ingredients.  First, the superfood smoothie.  “Superfood” is another buzzword that means absolutely nothing, and I don’t know what’s in the smoothie, so I’ll let it go.  Whole wheat toast?  Unacceptable.  Yes, whole wheat is healthier than white bread, but wheat wasn’t cultivated until what is now Iran, roughly 9,600 years ago, so that’s out.  Sorry.

How about eggs?  Eggs come from all manner of reptiles and birds, so it’s likely that early hominids figured out that those smooth little spheres contained a disproportionately large amount of protein.  Hell, howler monkeys have been seen eating bird’s eggs, and that’s an animal whose name comes from the fact that it’s literally too lazy to defend its own territory, so it just sits in the middle and screams bloody murder to let other monkeys know it’s taken.  They’re not exactly intellectual heavyweights is what I’m saying, and they figured it out.

“HEY! YOU! YEAH…YOU BETTER…STAY OVER THERE…”

But those are chicken eggs, and you can’t eat chicken eggs unless you’ve domesticated chickens.  So when did that happen?  Let’s ask the all-knowing Wikipedia.

It has been claimed (based on paleoclimatic assumptions) that chickens were domesticated in Southern China in 6000 BC. However, according to a recent study, “it is not known whether these birds made much contribution to the modern domestic fowl. Chickens from the Harappan culture of the Indus Valley (2500-2100 BC), in what today is Pakistan, may have been the main source of diffusion throughout the world.”

Oh, would you look at that.  2,500 BC.  You know what’s older than that?  Pottery.  Dams.  The harp and flute.  Linen.  The plow.  Beer.  FUCKING SKIING.  That’s right.  There is archaeological evidence of skiing from as far back as 6,000 BC.  Chickens are less ancient than winter sports, so you are most definitely not allowed to eat their eggs in your fucking paleo diet.  Next.

Is that sliced avocado on that plate there?  You bet your ass it is.  Let’s have a quick look and see how old avocado is.  It turns out that the oldest evidence of avocado is around 10,000 BC in Mexico.  That’s right on the recent end of the paleo period, but I’ll let that one slide.

Now for my favorite thing: bulletproof coffee.  “What,” you may be asking yourself, “in the actual fuck is bulletproof coffee?  Does it stop bullets?  Does it cause me to be able to stop bullets?”  No.  It does not.  Let’s look at the website of bulletproofexec.com.

I start the day with a cup of Bulletproof coffee. I learned about the power of butter at 18,000 feet elevation near Mt. Kailash in Tibet when I staggered into a guest house from the -10 degree weather and was literally rejuvenated by a creamy cup of yak butter tea. The biohacker in me asked, “why?” and that was the genesis of my recipe below, which is widely heralded as a cognitive enhancing recipe.

Reading this closely, you may notice that this man is a douchebag of unprecedented proportions.  He also demands, for his recipe, that you use his particular brand of coffee because otherwise you’ll get toxins or some shit.  I’d show you a screenshot, but his website sets off all kinds of malware warnings so never mind.  Anyway, bulletproof coffee is made of two things: coffee and unsalted butter.  Why?  Something about easily accessible fats, kickstarting the metabolism, long-lasting energy, etc.  I don’t even care, for the sake of this blog, whether it’s healthier for you.  If you haven’t caught on, we’re going to Google things and see if paleolithic people could have eaten them.  First, butter.  The history of butter is somewhat complicated, but the oldest references to it are Indian, from only 3,000 years ago.  Strike one.  Now let’s check on coffee.

This is where it gets really infuriating.  According to Wikipedia, “the earliest credible evidence of coffee-drinking appears in the middle of the 15th century in the Sufi shrines of Yemen.”  That one stopped me in my tracks.  The FIFTEENTH century.  I mean forget prehistoric.  Forget ancient.  Coffee is AS RECENT AS THE FUCKING PRINTING PRESS, AND YET THESE PALEO FUCKWADS HAVE THE AUDACITY TO JUDGE OTHERS FOR THE WAY THEY EAT.  That’s what really pissed me off when I was looking into this.  That was the last straw.  These people preach on and on about how important it is to only eat food that paleolithic hominids would have eaten, and then they summarily ignore that advice because they feel like it.  And lest you think I’m setting up a strawman based on the breakfast of one person whom I already said I don’t like, it’s not just this one guy’s breakfast.  If you go to ultimatepaleoguide.com, you’ll find a list of foods in the ideal paleo diet.  I picked a few out, along with how old they actually are.

  • Turkey: 2,000 years
  • Chicken: 2,500 years
  • Pork: 13,000 years
  • Shrimp: 2,500 years
  • Lobster: 2,500 years
  • Asparagus: 3,000 years
  • Avocado: 12,000 years
  • Carrots: 1,100 years
  • Broccoli: 2,500 years
  • Eggplant: 1,500 years
  • Apple: 2,300 years
  • Peach: 4,000 years
  • Mango: 5,000 years
  • Watermelon: 3,500 years
  • Banana: 10,000 years

See how many of those foods were around before the agricultural revolution?  Not a goddamn one. Except pork and possibly avocado.  And while the Good Times Spicy Bacon Guacamole burger is delicious, it doesn’t count.

Mmm…just like in biblical times.

And that’s not even counting the technological advances that we’ve made in that time.  Remember, for the majority of human history, we died when our teeth rotted out at about the age of 35.  Now we brush, but what about paleo people?  Are they allowed to brush?  Why should they be?  Why are they allowed to cook their food, when our ancestors couldn’t?  Why are they allowed to boil water?  Or refrigerate things?  Or take antibiotics?  Or smoke weed (3,000 years)?  The hypocrisy is simply crushing.  But that’s not the worst part.  The worst part is that even if my asshole friends were able to eat “paleo” foods…

5. Paleo People Didn’t

Yes.  This whole diet is based on the idea that we should eat like our two-million-year-old ancestors did.  In most cases, this refers to avoiding agricultural carbohydrates.  But how do we know what our ancestors ate anyway?  The answer lies in isotope analysis.

You see, plants using C3 photosynthesis like trees, shrubs, and herbs — the “ape” diet of fruits and nuts — use both carbon-12 and carbon-13, so the amounts of those isotopes in the skeletons of animals that eat that diet will roughly reflect the amount present in the environment.  Plants that use C4 photosynthesis like grasses — the modern diet of grains and grasses — use mostly carbon-13.  What this all boils down to is that you can examine the fossils of ancient hominids, find out what flavor of carbon is in their bones, and thus determine where they got their plant intake from.  Then you can find out when humans left the comfort of the trees to wander the plains, eschewing fruits and nuts for grains and grasses.  So when did the C3-C4 split happen?  Well, according to this journal article from the National Academy of Sciences, that transition had already been made by Australopithecus afarensis, well over three million years ago.  That’s hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions, before the paleolithic era.  Here’s what that ancestor looked like:

Oh haaaaaaayyyyyy…

A. afarensis was about four feet tall and covered in hair like a chimp.  His brain was a quarter the size of a modern human’s.  The anatomy of his joints suggest that he still spent a fair amount of time swinging from and climbing trees, and may have walked on his knuckles.  The most advanced technology he possessed was stone tools, and evidence even for that is sparse.  He wouldn’t discover fire for almost another three million years.  He was not, by any modern standard, a human being.  And even he didn’t eat paleo.

In Conclusion

I’m not saying that the paleo diet, such as it is, is unhealthy.  It’s probably good to cut down on artificial sugars, overly salted and processed meat, and so on.  But you don’t have to name every goddamn foible and dietary preference in order to brag to people how smart and healthy you’re being, and you certainly shouldn’t name it after a pretense that you don’t have a prayer in hell of sticking to, even if you were trying, which you’re not.  And paleo people will not shut the fuck up about doing it, either.  I don’t care how you eat.  No one cares how you eat.  Eating like shit will make you fat and unhealthy, and I give absolutely zero fucks if you’re fat and unhealthy.  There is literally nothing in this world that concerns me less than your personal cholesterol levels, or how you got them there.

Would you like to know what I eat?  NO YOU WOULD NOT BECAUSE YOU GIVE NO FUCKS.

Here is a cat demonstrating how to give the appropriate number of fucks.

Your body is not the same as mine.  It is not the same as your parents’.  It is not even close to the same as your ancestors’ millions of years removed, and to pretend that it is is fucking stupid.  But the most important thing to remember, no matter how you choose to make dietary choices, misguided or delusional or whatever, is this:

Shut your goddamn cramholes about it.

64 responses

  1. Yes! Thank you! I have this argument constantly with a friend who eats “paleo” and gluten-free, despite not having celiac disease. Wheat is not inherently evil.

  2. Seems like your problem is more with the title “Paleo Diet”, than the actual recommendations of eating “paleo”. No? If we called it the “fruits, vegetables, nuts, and meat diet” instead, would you have the same aversion? Besides, you're point about corn doesn't even make sense because on the “paleo diet”, you're not supposed to eat corn….and you're idiotic ex-friend's facebook photo is hardly a credible source to chastise those who actually know how to eat “paleo”. I never thought I'd see the day, but for once, I don't agree with you. But that's ok.

  3. Oh, Grubb. I knew our honeymoon phase couldn't last. I know you can't eat corn on the paleo diet (although as per Sylvia's comment, corn isn't evil either), and yes, my beef is mainly with the name. But it's more than that. The fact is that “paleo” people think they've tapped into some secret formula for eating healthy (with no scientific support) based on the idea that ancient people were healthier (both false and irrelevant) and that everyone should just eat like them (impossible). The “fruits, vegetables, nuts, and meat diet” may indeed be a viable way to maintain health (which I briefly addressed in the conclusion), but there's no reason to think it's the perfect way to eat, and there's certainly no reason to defend it on the grounds that our ancestors ate that way.

    What bothers me is not that people are trying to eat healthy. It's that they're so goddamned cocky about it. You mention that there are those who “actually know how to eat 'paleo'.” That's not true, as it's impossible. That doesn't mean what they're doing isn't healthy, but stop trying to defend your dietary choices or the accompanying braggadocio with some delusional bullshit about “returning to the old ways.”

    Honestly, I don't think we disagree. I think you misunderstood me. Perhaps I didn't explain myself well. Take me back…

  4. Actually, there is science that shows that digesting wheat can destroy your intestines even if you are not a celiac.

  5. You can't really say it's impossible to eat as your sources are completely ridiculous. I don't know where you learned to write, but it's part of the curriculum in high school to learn not to use Wikipedia, first off, and not to use sites that end in .com but instead in .edu, .org, or .gov when performing research.

    Also, it's impossible to know because no caveman from that time would have documented what exactly they ate. It's just common sense that they ate what was within reach, being fruits, veggies, and meat. Wheats are only excluded because they didn't have the technology to refine them. It's not about how “old” the Internet believes the foods are.

  6. I hope you're trolling. If you researched that badly before writing this piece of shit, I really hope you're neutered.

  7. This article really gets down to the core problem with the Paleo Diet: Paleo dieters can be — and, in my experience, are very often — loud, arrogant, and judgmental about health and nutrition. Although eating Paleo does have its merits, the sad reality is that health and nutrition sciences have not kept pace with the rest of the healthcare community. Most scientists do not consider nutrition a “hard” science, and, unfortunately, they have little reason to. For starters, we know relatively little about the gut bacteria that digest our food for us. Moreover, many nutrition studies imply correlation — and not CAUSATION — between the foods we eat and the responding biochemistry. Basically, while eating Paleo might be rooted in some good ideas, it is far too soon to label the Paleo Diet the “right” or the “best” way to eat.

    That being said, I do follow a variation of the Paleo Diet. I do love the way it makes me feel, and eating this way has allowed me to cut out plenty of prescription drugs. In response to this article, I did want to clarify that most Paleo dieters to not want to go back to eating like caveman. At its most basic level, the Paleo Diet encourages people to consume MODERN foods in a way that optimizes a biochemistry that evolved over millions of years. I certainly hope that no one actually wants to return to caveman days. I love my McDonalds apple pies (two for $1 people!) too much to be that crazy.

  8. first offense, you have an agenda and are finding all things wrong with the so called “peleo” diet. you are making people on a diet out to be bad people, i've heard of vegans that are as annoying as your examples, maybe you should do a rant about them next. don't preach that everyone is wrong or that everyone you know is a stupid asshole because they didn't do their research. i have never met anybody that has been obnoxious about their diet, any of them, not just peleo, i have vegetarian vegan, keto among many other friends, keto friends, they aren't annoying to me, so i think you are being a little too sensitive. i've lost over 40 lbs in less than 4 months, some people have noticed and are asking what i am doing, i mention briefly what i've done, then someone walks by and overhears me “preaching my new fad diet” now i'm an inconsiderate asshole?

  9. third: you are right about not eating corn, that is a crop food. cavemen didn't have crops, they hunted their food, ate berries, nuts and grubs and at the end of the day went into hiding so they didn't get eaten, that is whole point of nomadic people, they followed the herds throughout the year, because that is where the food is. enter the modern monolithic era where people evolved into home builders and crop harvesters eliminating the need for grass huts, teepees and following animal tracks. why travel the earth when you can just raise a chicken, cow and a pig and feed them shitty tomatoes and old corn.

  10. fourth: your bro, chiseled muscle man and naked slutty face book pals are another fine example of my first point, you are out to make dieters annoying and wrong. the bro is not on a peleo diet, bread is not peleo, your “friend” is an idiot and doesn't know what he is doing, he is on another diet and labeled it wrong… although i didn't see he, himself “preach” the diet, his bro pal mentions it, but it looks more like a great breakfast for working out and getting “ripped” like a bro. there may have been mention of being peleo from another post, but you didn't provide that evidence and are further proving my point that you are only giving certain information to prove your point.

    fifth: what came first the chicken or the egg? stating that chicken eggs isn't peleo is the same as preaching that eating a 16 ounce steak isn't peleo for the wrong reason. backing up for a second i will agree with you that it is impossible to be 100% peleo. when is the last time you were able to walk into any store, buy a 6 pack of reptile eggs and half of a yak liver and eat it for breakfast. it's called making due, using what is available to you. deer isn't in the meat isle at my store, i have to either 1) go hunt, 2) have a friend that hunts or 3) find a specialty place whether it is online or out of town to get the deer. now getting back to your naked slut pic and finding a way to make it relavant. if i buy meat from an online retailer, then it isn't peleo because the internet wasnt around 10,000 years ago, great logic huh? i'll just pack all my shit in a back-pack and follow a herd of hoofed animals because that is the only way to do it.

  11. sixth: there is a difference between being on a peleo diet and being peleo. you seem to have combined them or distorted them to try to prove your point. a peleo diet, follows guide lines like: cutting out carbs, sugars and processed foods, no more crops, no more ice cream and no more McDonalds. some people have confused the peleo diet with the keto diet, you might want to look into that one. and to answer your question, yes, you should brush your teeth.

    seventh: NO actually the diet isn't based off of what our ancestors ate 2 million years ago, you may have found a source stating that, but again it is a bad example.

    ninth: the peleo diet is not a chimpanzee diet nor is it a “A. afarensis” diet, it is a human diet, peleo is referring to a time before people harvested crops and refined sugar.

    extra credit:

    and i quote “The fact is that “paleo” people think they've tapped into some secret formula for eating healthy (with no scientific support) based on the idea that ancient people were healthier (both false and irrelevant) and that everyone should just eat like them (impossible).”

    funny thing is there is scientific support, you just have your own agenda to fill and aren't doing any kind of research on the other end of the argument to find out what it actually does, you are very biased and that does not make for a good argument.

    in finishing: if you are going to go through all the trouble to research, then nit pick a specific diet and claim that it is impossible and people are assholes for trying to cram it down your throat, then finish your research and learn about the whole diet, not just the inaccuracies.

  12. second: your bacteria theory is flawed. i dare you to eat one thing for an entire year, hell make it a month, but it can be only one thing. now change it, the single celled organisms in your body can adapt, but your intestines might not be as happy, and you will soon be rushing to the toilet. you are using a bad example comparing humans to single celled organisms, we are not and you are again trying to further your agenda.

  13. You're incredibly misinformed here. There is PLENTY of scientific evidence to support the “paleo diet”, which seems to be your major reason for being pissed off the diet. Yes I too dislike how people tend to get pretentious when they think they've found a superior way of eating and tell others that what they are doing is wrong, however you should go after those kinds of people rather than the diet itself, which works very very well. The whole basis behind why this diet works is your glycemic index. Eating paleo prevents blood sugar level swings that are a trademark of the Standard American Diet. Eating paleo makes you fuller longer because you avoid the insulin response that your body has to do in order to prevent you from dieing of a blood sugar overload. Being fuller longer means you naturally eat less, therefore you lose weight. This is the simplest way that I can explain to you why this diet works.

  14. Apparently you are a fan of Maddox and trying to be cool like him.

    nice try, but your story sucks and its bad

  15. The caveman diet and paleo are just names. The substance of the paleo diet is to eat healthy nonprocessed foods, like fruits, nuts, and meat, and to avoid starchy carbohydrates. I agree that the caveman premise is somewhat hokey. Who's to say cavemen were healthy? However, the actual recommendations of the caveman diet make sense.

    I've been doing paleo for about six weeks. I lost 12 pounds and feel much more healthy than I did before.

  16. To the person making a ton of points in the comments: you do realize it's pAleo, not peleo, right? I cannot take your somewhat valid points seriously considering you cannot handle basic spelling…

  17. Daw, someone is trying to be maddox, so edgy.

  18. No, someone is just actually educated and pays attention to proper proofreading.

  19. Regaardless of your view on the paleo diet, your attitude is horrible. In my opinion you aren't any better than those who chose to eat “paleo” foods.

    Sure, no one wants to hear about other diets, but no one wants to hear an aggressive, violent attack on others either. Try and be a bit more open minded instead of forcing others onto your beliefs. If they are happy, let them be.

  20. You couldn't be more wrong or more of a jackass

  21. Well, no, there's not. If you think there is, you should go ahead and cite it, not just say, “there is science” as if it's some sort of trump card.

  22. Lighten up, people, the man isn 't writing a research paper.

  23. The magnitude of your self-satisfaction is eclipsed only by your veneer-thin appreciation of basic principles of diet and nutrition. For example, it's irrelevant that bacteria in our gut have quickly evolved to digest the new foods humans have access to, because it ignores the fact that the gut is still exposed to those substances and the excretion products of the bacteria. It's not an all or nothing scenario, where either the bacteria digest the food or the intestines get it. And just because bacteria can digest something doesn't mean the food is rendered harmless. Also your literal approach that we aren't able to eat exactly the same diet as paleolithic humans, therefore it's not a paleo diet, while true is also irrelevant. Paleolithic humans ate a variety of foods based on where they lived, whether they lived in the early paleolithic or the late or middle, and the season, but several things are certain: they did not drink milk or eat grains and beans in any significant quantity. It's these basic principles that matter, as reflected by the body's improved response to paleo foods such as increased good HDL cholesterol, decreased small dense LDL cholesterol (with carb reduction), and decreased inflammatory response to problematic proteins like gluten or anti-nutrients like lectins. If you really have no idea what you're talking about, maybe you shouldn't be talking.

  24. The TED talk above is full of inaccuracies and smacks of a hidden agenda (spoiler alert: vegetarianism)
    See:
    http://www.paleostyle.com/?p=2143 for a critique.

  25. wow ur obviously jalouse of people that follow a diet. i bet you're just an egoic, crumpy nerd that can barely lift a finger, let alone work out.

  26. But I think the point here is that your intestines will not be happy at first, but they will adapt to the new food given some time. So, really, your example is the bad one.

  27. You should not group all people who are choosing to eat this way as being loud. I am eating this way on advice from my medical doctor – I think a medical doctor has more knowledge than you. I personally don't go around blabbing about my eating habits. I do however tell people about paleo. Most of the time it starts out by them commenting on all the weight I've lost and they always ask how. Then is when I tell them, but I don't shove it in their face. I don't feel that I am better in anyway. I am engaged in doing what is right for me. Even in my own house, I let my family eat what they choose. So I think you should shut up. My health has greatly improved by eating this way, so why is it that jerks like you and the media want to make fun, call us stupid, elitist, etc. You are the stupid one. Why do you even care what we eat? Get a life.

  28. Awesome! laughed my ass off. and the comments — especially the ones w/misspellings,bad grammar,and generally not understanding of basic science etc. are even awesomer…!!!

  29. not really, our intestines and other organs don't adapt as fast, or at all, enter diabetes, gout, ibs, heart disease among many others. the OP claimed that some bacteria we able to consume nylon, a man made fabric, and they adapted. i dare you for a month to eat only nylon and guess who comes out a winner.

  30. no he is attacking people based off of their beliefs.

  31. But why would you do that? Eat only one item for a month? And how is that salient? His point is that in 40 years the bacteria adapted, which indicates that our gut organisms have had time to adapt to agriculture. He never says that the first person to eat x didn't get a tummy ache, or that it didn't take some time to adapt, or even that every person can eat everything–it is simply that there has been plenty of time for that adaptation.

  32. My favorite complaint against essays like this is “The Paleo diet (or “peleo” if you're an expert, I guess) isn't really based on the diet of Paleolithic man, and whatever source you cited is just a bad one.” But the name, “Paleo” does refer to the Paleolithic, and I have never found a Paleo resource that didn't tie the diet to our ancestors and make support claims based on (a misunderstanding of) human evolution. I'm not saying no such resource exists, but the evolution/paleo human diet thing isn't some fringe idea. ThePaleoDiet.com isn't some obscure site started by some rando without paleo credentials.

  33. Whoops, I didn't mean to post this as a response to your post.

  34. I love how everyone is ignoring the extremely credible source on Australopithecus afarensis by the National Academy of Science. Like he said, the split between Carbon 13 and Carbon 14 occurred before Paleo times, showing we did eat grasses and grains way before than previously thought.

    Also, by calling the author “fat, stupid, a nerd”, and criticizing HIS OPINION, you are no better than he is. He is entitled to his opinion of this diet as much as you are, and by lashing back out at him, you are making paleo people look stupider (most of you angry people, being paleo).

    Calm the nips, its just a blog post.

  35. The Paleo diet is so yesterday. I only follow the Jurassic diet (Jurass diet for short cause we are cool like that). I lost 157 pounds, can run a marathon in under 3 hours, and yesterday I flipped a car over bare handed. All I do is eat only the purest Brontosaurus jerky (and coffee of course, science has shown the T-Rex couldn't handle start the day without his joe). Really I don't know why everyone is raging on this Paleo diet thing when obviously our intestines still are not that different from our reptilian ancestors. Psh!

    😉

  36. If beliefs are stupid, they are worthy of being attacked.

  37. There's “sience”, lol.

  38. I had a seance where a ghost told me not to eat wheat.

  39. Some of this is really good and funny too. But shrimp is not 2,500 years old for example, since shrimp as a species have existed for far far longer than that. Probably longer than humans. Maybe you mean shrimp husbandry or large-scale harvesting?

    Either way, the “paleo diet” is usually a mish-mash of things that they think *might* resemble ancient foods (chicken eggs for example) and things they randomly decided they like (butter), often excluding things fairly arbitrarily (tomatoes, just because one popular author fixated on some of their phytochemicals, which are present in a great many other plants). In the end, it doesn't end up making a whole lot of sense.

  40. Awesome and hysterical! Love the blog name too.

  41. In every case — and I should have clarified — I meant as a human food. So when I say “Shrimp: 2,500 years,” what that means is that as far as I could tell from my (shoddy and unsatisfactory) research, humans have only been eating shrimp for 2,500 years. In any case, paleolithic man didn't eat a single one of those foods because for most of that time period they were confined to Africa. Worth pointing out the distinction though, thanks.

  42. Suck your own Dick, bitch.

  43. I'm with you on this. If he had actually looked at a few books the authors make the concessions that the food available today is pretty drastically different so there are some assumptions that are taken. It's still doesn't matter Paleo encourages a healthy portion of your diet being healthy greens, fruits, grain fed meats, etc. Gut bacteria do help to break down larger macromolecules during digestion, but they are hardly the only mechanism that is required to digest foods the dietary value of the food you eat is still the most important. Just like with many other diets there are many stupid people on them and I don't think that it is any higher than what represents any other group.

    Wolf and others have said to spend some time on the Paleo diet and see how you feel, then introduce foods back in and then wait and see how you feel. That's how I found out that I don't have much or any lactose intolerance and can eat a reasonable amount of dairy, but I definitely feel better not eating corn and wheat. I can't tell much difference with Legumes, so I eat them off and on. Use your head with any diet, the paleo plan is just a set of guidelines and i've found some value to it.

  44. Two requests:
    1) Can you debunk Ray Peat? that shit has been driving me nuts for a couple years
    2) Marry me.

  45. I AM INFINITELY BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE I EAT THINGS.

  46. I'll admit, I skimmed over what you wrote. Most of your premises about the “Paleo diet” are either flawed or just incredibly redundant.

    1. Paleo People Weren't Any Better Adapted Than We Are
    Based on some of the research I've done in my ANT100 course at university, I'd argue that paleolithic hominids (such as homo sapiens) were adapted to eating food that was found in the environment in which they lived. In the case of “paleo people” in North America, that likely meant limited amounts of grain and copious amounts of plants and meat.

    The core tenet of the “Paleo Diet” is to strictly limit the amount of processed garbage food we put into our bodies. At it happens, a great majority of processed foods happen to be grain-based (i.e. corn, soy and wheat). Thus, it makes sense for us to avoid these grains as our bodies are not adapted to eating genetically-modified and/or selectively bred grains.

    2. We Don't Digest Our Own Food
    I don't quite understand your argument here. Sure, bacteria have many more generations than actual humans do given the same time-span, but they're still only a part of the body. The human body itself has not had enough time to go through the evolutionary process that might lead to one day being able to thrive healthily off processed garbage.

    3. You can't
    Okay. So what? The whole point of the paleo diet isn't to perfectly replicate cavemen. It's to adapt what we have currently available as a food source to eat in a way that our bodies can recognize and thrive on.

    “Everything you eat has been selectively bred to be bigger or sweeter or fattier or to make more of itself faster.”

    This is a completely false premise. What of “heirloom” strains of tomatoes? What about cultures in the modern world today that have not genetically-engineered foods? What about modern paleo societies, such as tribes in Papua New Guinea?

    4. They're Not Even Trying
    Okay, this is a complete bullshit statement. A screenshot of what an acquaintance ate on Facebook has zero credibility. As for the rest of this section, it reads like a complete strawman argument. As someone who eats paleo, I don't give a rat's ass what you eat. It's my body I care about; not yours. And I don't judge what someone else eats unless they're interested in going paleo. We're not angry vegans, dude.

    5. Paleo People Don't
    “This whole diet is based on the idea that we should eat like our two-million-year-old ancestors did.”
    Wrong. You have no idea what the paleo diet is all about. Do some more reading.

    6. Conclusion
    Clearly, you're very angry about something someone who claimed to be “paleo” said or did to you. But to generalize the paleo diet on something someone you might not get along with told you leads to a “hasty generalization”.

    “It is definitely not the same as your ancestors' millions of years removed, and to pretend that it is is fucking stupid.”
    It's not pretending. Genetically speaking, the human body is about 99% the same as it was at least 10,000+ years ago, before the advent of agriculture.

    Please do more reading before you pretend to know everything about the paleo diet.

  47. Started with “I'll admit, I skimmed over what you wrote.”

    and ended with

    “Please do more reading before you pretend to know everything about the paleo diet.”

    O-kay!

  48. Good luck debunking Ray Peat!

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